HOEPKEN: No, I was never a member of the SS.
DR. SAUTER: Of the SA?
HOEPKEN: No.
DR. SAUTER: Do you know that these three permanent representatives, whom the Defendant Von Schirach had in Vienna, namely the Regierungspräsident, the Deputy Gauleiter, and the Mayor, were all three SS Führer?
HOEPKEN: Yes, I know that.
DR. SAUTER: How was that? Did the Defendant Von Schirach select these men himself, or how do you explain the fact that all three of his representatives were SS Führer?
HOEPKEN: The Deputy Gauleiter, Scharizer, was an honorary SS Führer and, as far as I recall, he was Oberbefehlsleiter of the Party. When Von Schirach came to Vienna, Scharizer had already been active for several years in Vienna.
DR. SAUTER: As what?
HOEPKEN: As Deputy Gauleiter. I do not know when the Regierungspräsident, Dr. Dellbrügge, came to Vienna; but I assume either before or at about the same time as Von Schirach. Moreover, the Regierungspräsidenten were appointed by the Ministry of the Interior, so that I think he could hardly have had sufficient influence to refuse or select a particular Regierungspräsident.
As for the mayor, the situation was similar.