DR. SAUTER: And on the documents which I have here, there is no such note either. Do you conclude from this that the Defendant Von Schirach received no report on them?

HOEPKEN: I must conclude that Von Schirach was not informed on these matters.

DR. SAUTER: Witness, the Defendant Von Schirach was chief of the state administration in Vienna in his capacity as Reich Governor, as well as chief of the local administration to a certain extent as mayor, and finally chief of the Party as Gauleiter. Now, we hear that in each of these capacities he had a permanent representative.

I should like to know who normally administered the affairs of the Reich Defense Commissioner and the Reich Governor; that is, the affairs of the state administration?

HOEPKEN: I have already said that it was the Regierungspräsident, Dr. Dellbrügge.

DR. SAUTER: And then what did the Defendant Von Schirach do in the field of state administration?

HOEPKEN: He was given regular reports by the Regierungspräsident. Von Schirach then made his decision, and these decisions were then carried out by the officials or departments.

DR. SAUTER: If I understand you correctly, the Defendant Von Schirach concerned himself only with such matters as were reported to him by the Regierungspräsident or which were brought to his special attention in writing; is that true?

HOEPKEN: Yes, that is true.

DR. SAUTER: Witness, were you yourself a member of the SS?