HOEPKEN: I was in Vienna until April 1945.

MR. DODD: What was done with Von Schirach’s files when the end was very obviously coming? What did you do with all those files over which you had control?

HOEPKEN: I was not in charge of any files. I was chief of the bureau, and I...

MR. DODD: Well, you know what I mean—chief of the bureau or of the office where these files were kept. What I want to know is what did you do with the files?

HOEPKEN: I gave no orders in this connection.

MR. DODD: Do you know what became of the files?

HOEPKEN: No, I do not.

MR. DODD: They were taken out of the office sometime before the city was captured; do you not know that?

HOEPKEN: No, I did not know that.

MR. DODD: Were the files there the last day that you were there?