HOEPKEN: Probably, yes.

MR. DODD: I do not want a “probably.” I want to know if you know and if you do, to tell us. Were they there or not the last day that you were in the office?

HOEPKEN: I gave no orders to destroy them or to remove them.

MR. DODD: I did not ask you if you gave orders. I asked you if you know what became of them and whether or not they were in the office the last day that you were there?

HOEPKEN: I do not know what happened to them. Nor can I say whether they were still there on the last day.

MR. DODD: Do you not know that they were all moved to a salt mine in Austria?

HOEPKEN: No, I do not know that.

MR. DODD: You have never heard that, or that they were taken out of the office and were later found by the Allied Forces in a salt mine?

HOEPKEN: No, I do not know that.

MR. DODD: I do not mean that you heard they were found there, but you certainly knew that they were taken out of the office?