THE PRESIDENT: How many were there of them?
KEMPKA: More and more came up, and then some of them drove away again. They tried to break through at that point. Possibly one or two tried. The others withdrew after the tank was blown up.
THE PRESIDENT: Where did the column start from?
KEMPKA: That I do not know. They came quite suddenly—there they were, I assume that they were tanks which had withdrawn into the middle of the town and were also trying to break out in a southerly direction.
THE PRESIDENT: When you say they were there suddenly, where do you mean they were? Where did they pick you up?
KEMPKA: I was not picked up. I left the Reich Chancellery...
THE PRESIDENT: Well, where did they join you? Where did you first see them?
KEMPKA: At the Weidendammer Bridge, behind the Friedrichstrasse station. They turned up there during the night.
THE PRESIDENT: Where was it that Bormann first asked you whether it would be possible to get through?
KEMPKA: That was at the tank barrier behind the Friedrichstrasse station at the Weidendammer Bridge.