Statement of Pfannmueller. Bouhler took the chair in the second conference in Berlin; Karl Brandt was not present. (Tr. p. 7359.)

Statement of Brack, according to which Karl Brandt made no speeches on problems of euthanasia, and he was not expected to do so. (Tr. p. 7588.) This is confirmed by the testimony of Blome.

Statement of Mennecke, according to which Brack was chairman of the conference in February 1940. (Tr. p. 1869.)

Statement of Schmidt. Karl Brandt also was not present at the conference in February 1941, but there were present representatives of the Reich Ministry of the Interior and of the Reich Ministry of Justice. (Tr. p. 1819.)

Statement of Pfannmueller, according to which the experts were appointed by the Reich Ministry of the Interior. (Tr. p. 7377.)

Statement of Brack, according to which the physicians were chosen by Linden and Grawitz. (Tr. pp. 7703, 7705.)

Affidavit of Kneissler, according to which the persons in charge of euthanasia were instructed by Blankenburg of the Bouhler office. (NO-470, Pros. Ex. 332.) Karl Brandt was not mentioned.

Affidavit of Sprauer, according to which the mental institutions were under the control of the Reich Ministry of the Interior. (3896-PS, Pros. Ex. 372.) Answering a complaint of Sprauer, Conti stated: “That is the business of the Reich Ministry of the Interior.”

Affidavit of Jordans. (3882-PS, Pros. Ex. 371.) Also confirms that the mental institutions were under the control of the Reich Ministry of the Interior.

The order for evacuation from Warstein to Hadamar was not given at the suggestion of the Reich Defense Commissioner or for “systematic registration”, but with regard to the air raid danger. (NO-892, Pros. Ex. 442.) Karl Brandt was a member of the committee for air raid damage, and it was his special task within this committee to allot the space available in hospitals fairly. The order was given in 1942, after the great air raids in the area of Cologne and the industrial areas. It refers to an institution in the interior of Westphalia which was considered as a reception district at that time; the euthanasia facilities at Hadamar were removed and the institution was returned to the former owner. (See indictment in the Hadamar Trial.[[102]])