A. No. I had a group of students to whom I expounded my historical and philosophical theories and ideas.
Q. How did it happen that you became an opponent of the NSDAP so early?
A. From the information available to me I knew the personal inferiority of the National Socialist leaders. I could observe that they were constantly lying and that what they really wanted was undesirable.
Q. Did you believe, as early as 1928, that the NSDAP would come to power?
A. No, not in 1928. In 1930, after the first election battle at which the Party was victorious, I considered it possible. In 1931 I considered it probable. In 1932 I felt that it was certain.
Q. Did you join any definite political party with the intention of combating the NSDAP?
A. No. I considered it impossible for any of the 33 German parties, with their bureaucratic methods, to be able to prevent a fascist dictatorship, or if it had come into existence, to overthrow it.
Q. What methods did you think were the right ones?
A. The fascist dictatorship is a mass machine in a technical age. Therefore it seemed to us to be out of the question, when confronting such a mass body, to act openly. It seemed impossible to carry out propaganda publicly. We were convinced that the only thing possible was to form very small cadres which would not be recognizable to an outsider and which at the proper time could be employed for a coup d’etat.
Q. Then that was more or less the method of the Trojan Horse?