A. Yes.
Q. Were you, in your ideas and in your efforts to combat this movement alone or did you have associates?
A. First, a selected group of my students were willing to collaborate in this illegal work; second, I knew quite a number of personages of various political backgrounds with whom I agreed that this regime would not last.
Q. That was before 1933?
A. That was around 1933—1932-33.
Q. Now came the 30th of January 1933, the so-called seizure of power, and now your real work began. How and when did you apply your method of the Trojan Horse?
A. This group of my students, who were willing to collaborate, I made into an illegal organization, with dues, secrecy, and other necessary conditions, and I appointed people who were willing and suitable to get into important Party positions.
Q. When and how did you meet the defendant Wolfram Sievers?
A. As far as I can recall, I met Sievers about 1929, on one of my historical-philosophical lecture trips. He was a Boy Scout at that time. He spoke up during the discussion and we took a liking to each other.
Q. Did Sievers show at that time that he was opposed to the NSDAP?