Q. All of the judges in Germany were in a position of fealty to the Fuehrer, were they not?
A. No fealty, no.
Q. What do you understand by “fealty”?
A. Dependence upon him.
Q. And you don’t think judges in Germany at the end of the war were dependent on Hitler?
A. I just wanted to prevent this fealty.
Q. You wanted to prevent it?
A. Yes.
Q. That is not what you said in your memorandum. You said in your memorandum, “A judge who is in direct relation of fealty to the Fuehrer must judge like the Fuehrer.” That doesn’t sound like you were trying to prevent it. That sounds like you were trying to induce it.
A. You do not distinguish between the dependence and fealty on the one hand, and an obvious natural relationship of trust and confidence which every German and therefore every judge too should have in the Fuehrer.