Q. And, in accordance with your suggestion, they would then have been indicted?
A. Well, I couldn’t make a suggestion because I didn’t really know what was the matter with Hartmann yet, but if I had found out, I would then have suggested the indictment of Kluettgen and possibly of the Kreisleiter too. However, as far as the Kreisleiter was concerned, that depended upon those investigations which had not yet been made.
Q. I suppose these facts which you have described to the Tribunal can be gathered from the files which you have mentioned?
A. Yes.
Q. May I ask you when you saw the files for the last time?
A. In the spring of this year.
Q. What has been done with the files?
A. I gave them to the attorney general, Dr. Junker, in Duesseldorf in person.
Q. And presumably they are still there?
A. Yes, I am quite sure they must be.