Q. That is a very material modification of your former statement, because you also said that considerable numbers were acquitted. I assume that you do not consider that persons who were acquitted were necessarily guilty; you presume them innocent if they were acquitted, don’t you?

A. Or that the evidence was not sufficient to prove them guilty.

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REDIRECT EXAMINATION

Dr. Kubuschok: In reply to a question by the prosecutor, you spoke of your membership with the Bund Oberland, and you stated that the Bund Oberland on 8 November [9 November] 1923 took part in the so-called Hitler Putsch. You stated that the Bund Oberland was an association—a so-called Nationalistic association of which many members were college students. Did that organization Oberland at a later time ever become incorporated in the NSDAP? Did that nationalistic organization ever become a National Socialist unit by way of incorporation?

Defendant von Ammon: No. After the Bund Oberland had participated in the Hitler Putsch on 9 November, it was dissolved. I believe that at some time later on it came back to life, but I personally no longer took any part in it. As far as I know, it never in any way was incorporated in the National Socialist movement.

Q. How far did you participate in the events of the night of 9 November 1923?

A. The company of the Bund Oberland to which I had been assigned was alerted, on the evening of 8 November 1923. I was not alerted because my name was not on the alert list. I had joined the Bund Oberland only a little before that time. Therefore, I was only told about it on the morning of the 9th. I then joined my company which was stationed in an inn by the Isar, at Bogenhausen, in Munich. There I spent a few hours with the company; then we marched off to the East. There we disbanded and returned to Munich one by one. That was my participation in the event of 9 November.

Presiding Judge Brand: May I ask you—were you armed? Were you armed at that time?

Defendant von Ammon: Yes, I had a gun.