A. No, that is not correct. The Ortsgruppenleiter Stubenvoll had informed the Kreisleiter, Dr. Kolb, and he raised the point again because this sentence of 2 weeks was not enough for him, and that is the way this matter came to the Special Court in Nuernberg, and then it went on.
Q. Well, did this matter lead to a trial then?
A. No. As far as I know—
Q. Please go on.
A. As far as I know from my lawyer, this matter was diverted by Berlin, and that is why the second time, on 21 August, I was released again.
Q. But then there were other denunciations against you?
A. Yes, later on. After I had been released for the first time and when I was in custody pending trial for the second time, only then was this sermon brought to the knowledge of the [Nuernberg] Special Court.
Q. It seems that you were also denounced by the Ortsgruppenleiter for other activities.
A. Well, no, I was not denounced. I was only charged with them and reprimanded, but they had nothing to do with the court.
Q. Just a little bit slower, please.