Q. Did you mean them at that time?

A. I spoke in quite a general way, and I left to the people what they wanted to understand from my sermon.

Q. Well, did you mean the leading personalities? I would like to know that.

A. I spoke in a quite general way on these matters of ideology, and I left it to everybody. If I meant somebody then, of course, I meant, first of all, Rosenberg who actually was the man who was involved with the National Socialist ideology versus religion, by his book.

Q. In other words, the assumption of the public prosecutor was correct?

A. It was an assumption and they couldn’t prove it.

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Q. Now, witness, you have admitted that the newspaper distributor Geyer expressly stated that your sermon was very aggressive.

A. Yes, the witness Geyer in the minutes taken by the Gestapo had testified that, and they had written it down.

Q. Also, the wife of the Ortsgruppenleiter, according to your own testimony, had testified that in church she had objected to what you said?