Mr. O’Connell. Any other groups?
Mr. Tavenner. Yes; or individuals.
Mr. O’Connell. Well, over the period of years from 1940 on down there were all kinds of grants made and there have been various individuals who have come to me in connection with them.
Mr. Tavenner. And many of those people were leaders in notorious Communist-front organizations; weren’t they?
Mr. O’Connell. Well, of course I don’t go along with your description of notorious Communist-front organizations. Many of the people came to me and asked me to vote for grants for causes and for principles which I thought were right and which I thought ought to be done, and if they were right in my opinion I thought they were right, I voted for them and if they were not I voted against them.
Mr. Tavenner. Well, for instance, was a grant made of $20,000 to be used in the payment of attorney’s fees for the defense of William Robert Remington?
Mr. O’Connell. Not by the Marshall Foundation, by the trust funds that I was a trustee of. We certainly made no grant.
Mr. Tavenner. Was any money of the foundation——
Mr. O’Connell. I think, isn’t that in connection with the civil-liberties trust? It is not in connection with the trade-union trust. Isn’t that right?
Mr. Tavenner. That was paid out from another fund in the same trust, not from the one in which——