Mr. Arce. He was on all floors; I couldn't tell you where he was.
Mr. Ball. Was he outside?
Mr. Arce. No, he was eating lunch; me and Jack Dougherty, same time.
Mr. Ball. Dougherty ate his lunch?
Mr. Arce. Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball. Did he go outdoors after lunch?
Mr. Arce. I don't know; I didn't see him.
Mr. Ball. Who went outdoors with you?
Mr. Arce. Bill Shelley and Billy Lovelady; Carl was out there and Charles Givens.
Mr. Ball. You stood there how long before the parade came along?