Mr. Stern. So, that would be eight including yourself, plus two employees of the railroad. One of the T. & P. and one of the Katy?
Mr. Holland. That's right. At that time. Now, like I said a while ago, by the time they started there was quite a few come up there, but I can't remember who it was or their names, because——
Mr. Stern. Before the motorcade started?
Mr. Holland. Before the motorcade started.
Mr. Stern. These were people you recognized as employees?
Mr. Holland. Some of them, and some of them I did not recognize, but I think he was asking for credentials.
Mr. Stern. The uniformed policeman?
Mr. Holland. Yes; one on that side, and one on this side to keep them——
Mr. Stern. Yes; and did you participate in identifying people as being terminal or railroad employees?
Mr. Holland. When they first started arriving, yes; it was my purpose for going up there.