Mr. Hubert. Jack walked away from that man?

Mr. Crafard. Yes.

Mr. Hubert. You never saw him hit anybody?

Mr. Crafard. No. The only time I even saw him touch anybody was when he got the man’s hand and knocked it down.

Mr. Hubert. Was the comedian bigger than Jack?

Mr. Crafard. Yes; bigger than Jack.

Mr. Hubert. Quite a bit bigger?

Mr. Crafard. Yes.

Mr. Hubert. How about the patron that he handled?

Mr. Crafard. He was a bigger fellow. He stood about 6 foot. He is quite a bit bigger than I am, even. He was taller and heavier.