Mr. Hubert. Do you know anything about what Ruby did to keep in physical condition?
Mr. Crafard. I knew he worked with barbells quite a lot.
Mr. Hubert. How did you know that?
Mr. Crafard. He told me about his barbells a couple of times and he was dieting, and I had heard that he went to a gymnasium quite often.
Mr. Hubert. Did he seem to you to be a powerful man, considering his build and weight and size?
Mr. Crafard. For his type of build and flabbiness as he was, he had quite a bit of strength.
Mr. Hubert. How did you know that?
Mr. Crafard. Well——
Mr. Hubert. Well, I mean did you observe him in a situation which demonstrated the use of strength?
Mr. Crafard. No; not really where it would be a real test of strength or anything. I have never seen anything of that sort.