Mr. Ruby. No; Woodfield.

Mr. Griffin. Somebody—you just reported that somebody said—“Let Howard come before me and deny it.”

Mr. Ruby. Yes.

Mr. Griffin. I take it this was the Saturday Evening Post man who allegedly made that statement?

Mr. Ruby. Let me look in my book. Perhaps I have it.

Mr. Griffin. What I am getting at is where did you get—who told you—that the Saturday Evening Post man said that?

Mr. Ruby. Woodfield.

Mr. Griffin. Woodfield?

Mr. Ruby. Yes.

Mr. Griffin. So everything you know about this transaction between Howard and the Saturday Evening Post comes either from Woodfield or from Howard’s denial?