Mr. Ruby. Yes; right. I don’t have it. I may have it somewhere else in another book but I don’t have it here.

By the way, if you are asking about the finances, we still have bills of—altogether from what my sister tells me—of close to $10,000 that are unpaid now.

Mr. Griffin. Is there any money left in either of the funds at this point?

Mr. Ruby. No; I have been putting it off.

I mean, Burleson insists he wants some money so I have been sending him out of my personal account.

Mr. Griffin. How soon after your brother shot Oswald did you see him?

Mr. Ruby. I think it was about at least a week.

Mr. Griffin. Well—— Mr. Ruby. I am not sure. Because I made so many trips there. I was down there about seven or eight times.

Mr. Griffin. Was it before you went to Los Angeles to see Mike Shore?

Mr. Ruby. No; I think I made it on the way back. I went to Los Angeles first, the first trip, and then on the way back I went to Dallas.