Mr. Griffin. How much time did you spend with Jack on this first visit?
Mr. Ruby. Well, they only let you talk about 20 minutes or a half hour at the most.
Mr. Griffin. When is the last time you have seen him?
Mr. Ruby. The last time I saw him was—I was there at the verdict, you know.
Mr. Griffin. Have you seen him since the verdict?
Mr. Ruby. Yes, oh, yes; I stayed there for at least several days, anyhow, and I saw him every day at least once.
Mr. Griffin. Have you seen him since then?
Mr. Ruby. No, no; since I came back, since that trip, I haven’t been back.
Mr. Griffin. All right. Did you notice any change in your brother’s mental and physical condition between the first time that you saw him in Dallas and the last time that you saw him in Dallas?
Mr. Ruby. Oh, yes; definitely. Physically he lost about 30 pounds, and you know, his face was drawn and his eyes sunken, and in addition to that he was despondent, of course, and you couldn’t—he would have to repeat questions or ask questions from him more than once to get a reply. It just didn’t seem to register all the time.