Everyone was in there and set up. Chief Curry came in and told them that they would have to remain still, that if they started milling or if they started moving he was going to remove the suspect, which when they did, he removed him.

Mr. Hubert. How long were you in the room prior to the time Oswald was brought in?

Mr. Johnston. I would say probably 10 minutes, maybe 15.

Mr. Hubert. Did you observe Ruby during the time that you were in the room prior to the time Oswald came in?

Mr. Johnston. I can say that he was in the room because I was watching everyone that was in the room.

Mr. Hubert. But he actually didn’t introduce himself until Oswald left?

Mr. Johnston. Until Oswald had been removed; yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert. Was he standing on a table or chair or something like that?

Mr. Johnston. I believe that at one time he was either on a chair or the table. When I first noticed the man he was standing on the floor, and I believe towards the last he was up either on a chair or on a table.

Mr. Hubert. Did he make any statement or make any kind of comment at all at any time?