Mr. Palmer. I believe that is when I first received the letter indicating it was to all club owners.
Mr. Griffin. Did Jack Ruby discontinue amateur night at any time, to your knowledge?
Mr. Palmer. Yes; prior to my, well, unpleasantness, he began a series of dishes, giving away dishes Thursday and hi-fi’s and everything else, and had discontinued his amateur nights, and made quite a thing that he was complying wholeheartedly. But it took him almost 4 or 5 months to get around to complying.
Mr. Griffin. Was he still complying in November of 1963?
Mr. Palmer. Yes; I believe, to the best of my knowledge, he was.
Mr. Griffin. Do you recall in November of 1963 that Jack was attempting to persuade AGVA to terminate the amateur shows at the Weinstein club?
Mr. Palmer. Oh, yes.
Mr. Griffin. Can you tell us about what he did?
Mr. Palmer. He called Irving Mazzie on several occasions, and without my receiving any confirmation either from Irving or from New York as to what these conversations embodied, he instructed me that he was right, Jack Ruby, and I agreed. However, I had a request to have the other clubs shut down because of their noncompliance disregarded by New York. So it became my policy, and probably the reason for my termination with AGVA was that one or the other of the officers either the west coast or the east coast, would have to come in and straighten this out.
Mr. Griffin. You were getting conflicting orders, I take it?