Mr. Griffin. How did you happen to go to Dallas on the first occasion?

Mrs. Kaminsky. Well, I was kind of run down and nervous, frankly, I wanted to get away from the children a little bit and I didn’t know where to go.

Mr. Griffin. Yes.

Mrs. Kaminsky. And I don’t remember if I called him or asked him if he’d mind if I’d come down, but whatever it was, he welcomed me.

Mr. Griffin. Yes.

Mrs. Kaminsky. And I stayed a week.

Mr. Griffin. Did you go down alone?

Mrs. Kaminsky. The first time; yes.

Mr. Griffin. Did you stay with Jack or with one of your other brothers and sisters?

Mrs. Kaminsky. No; I stayed with Jack that time, all the time. This last trip, I stayed primarily with Eva because I had the two little girls and she had more—not necessarily should I say “more time,” but because of all the women being together.