MR. DODD: Did you know about it at the time that it was going on?

HAYLER: No.

MR. DODD: Did you know Pohl, the SS man—P-o-h-l?

HAYLER: May I ask you for that name again?

MR. DODD: Pohl—P-o-h-l?

HAYLER: I do not remember knowing an SS man Pohl.

MR. DODD: Do you know a man called Obergruppenführer Pohl of the SS?

HAYLER: No—Yes, I know an Obergruppenführer Pohl. Obergruppenführer Pohl was the chief of the administrative office of the SS.

MR. DODD: Did you have conversations and meetings with him from time to time?

HAYLER: Officially I had a few conversations with Pohl. Usually they were very unpleasant.