Q. What were Haberkern’s offices in Nuernberg and the Gau Franconia?
A. He was Gau inspector, the leader of the Hotel and Restaurant Association, and he was also an Ortsgruppenleiter. I believe he was the Ortsgruppenleiter of the old city.
Q. Through this function did he have any contacts with your official position as judge?
A. No. The Gau inspector, according to his official duties, has to take care of internal matters of the Party. As a leader of the Hotel and Restaurant Association all he could have done was to find me some rooms for my summer holidays. I had nothing to do with his local group [Ortsgruppe] because I belonged to a different group.
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Q. Witness, did the Party offices in Party affairs have their own legal consultants?
A. In this connection, one must point out that every Party office, even the Ortsgruppenleiter, the leaders of the local groups, had their own legal offices. I had nothing to do with that matter.
Q. When were matters concerning legal questions brought to you?
A. Only if simultaneously they affected the interests of the NSRB, and even then only if they affected the interests of the Gau Group for judges and public prosecutors.
Q. Did the Gauleitung take any interest in the general administration of justice?