A. I never noticed that the Gauleitung of Franconia ever took any interest in the development of the legal situation.
Q. Did the legal situation play a decisive part in the Gauleitung?
A. I never noticed anything of that sort.
Q. At the table at the Blaue Traube that has been mentioned here so often, were there ever any discussions which have been laid down previously?
A. May I summarize my statement and perhaps say for the last time that I went to the Blaue Traube with the same intentions that other people had when they went there, and with which other people are in the habit of going to other pubs. As for conferences with agendas, they weren’t held there for the simple reason that that would have been parliamentary. I met other people there, too, but I didn’t meet anybody who went there with any political aims.
Q. Were official matters discussed there?
A. Not official, though Party matters were discussed there; but there, as I think happened in those days at every table in every pub, political things were discussed, and the war was discussed. If somebody were to ask me today what we talked about, I would not be able to give an account of even one trend of ideas that we discussed there.
Q. Did you ever go to Haberkern with your own affairs, that is to say, to get any of your own wishes of a personal nature fulfilled?
A. I never bothered Haberkern on any matter of that kind.
Q. Do you know whether other people from your entourage asked Haberkern for his help on their own behalf?