A. Yes, he had.

Q. Was that defense counsel a Jew?

A. Yes, he was.

Q. Did the Seiler woman have a defense counsel, too?

A. Yes, she had.

Q. What sort of a man was the defense counsel for Seiler? Was he a National Socialist, or what was he?

A. I knew him. He wasn’t a National Socialist for certain. My impression was that he was entirely uninterested in politics and devoted to his profession.

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Q. Now, we’re going to examine the statements by the witness Seiler. The statements by the witnesses Ferber, Seiler, and Dr. Baur[420] are criticizing your method of conducting the Katzenberger case.

According to the testimony of the witness Seiler, you addressed the audience and said—“The Jews are our misfortune. It is the fault of the Jews that this war happened. Those who have contact with the Jews will perish through them. Racial defilement is worse than murder, and poisons the blood for generations. It can only be atoned by exterminating the offender.” (Tr. p. 1053).