Q. Was he an Aryan if his grandfather was a Jew?
A. He had two grandfathers and two grandmothers.
Q. Yes.
A. And there the distinction was made, but according to the Nuernberg laws, which were only of interest before the administrative authorities and not for these trials, the distinction was made whether he was one-eighth, one-fourth, or one-half Jew, that is to say, a person of mixed descent of that degree, or whether he was a full Aryan. But I say that that is a question which for carrying out these descent cases was of no importance.
Q. Will you tell me then, and do it briefly, because I know you can, what did the person have to prove in order to establish in a descent case that he was an Aryan?
A. It was established, Mr. President, that contrary to the legal assumptions, he was not the descendant of that and that father. Nothing else.
Q. That is, that he was not the descendant of his purported father.
A. Of the purported father according to the legal assumption.
Q. That is, if the father was a Jew.
A. If the father was a Jew.