Q. Now, the witness Schosser has pointed out that he had already been arrested by the Gestapo, and that at that time he had been punished; he had been sentenced to 14 days. Can you determine from the files whether you issued the warrant of arrest before you knew of the police measures against Schosser?

A. From the files it can be seen without doubt that when I issued the warrant of arrest, I did not know anything about the occurrences at the Gestapo office of Regensburg which found its climax in the protective custody imposed upon Schosser for 14 days. That can be seen from the following.

Q. When did you receive information about that from the Gestapo?

A. I was just going to say that because you have already asked me. On 15 June 1942 the prosecution sent the arrest warrant to the Secret State Police at Regensburg. Subsequently, on 18 June 1942 the Secret State Police Regensburg replied with the information that it did not want to carry out the arrest at that time because a police measure was imposed, that is to say, the protective custody for 14 days on Schosser and returned the files together with the arrest warrant to the senior public prosecutor and that is the way he was informed in connection with that funeral. The Secret State Police already had taken measures. I was not informed about these facts, as can be seen from the file. Just the same, that arrest warrant was carried out, and that was justified.

Presiding Judge Brand: May I ask you a question. Would you tell us in a few words the specific provision of the insidious acts law which was violated in this case? I don’t understand that.

Defendant Rothaug: That was article 2, section 1. I can read it if you think it is desirable; I can quote it if you think it is desirable.

Presiding Judge Brand: I would like to hear that if it is brief; I haven’t it before me.

Defendant Rothaug: This is the provision. Schosser—

Dr. Koessl: Give the legal provisions, Witness.

Defendant Rothaug: Yes, that is what it is. It is suspected that Schosser made vicious remarks in public, derogatory remarks about the leadership of the State, the NSDAP, its provisions and institutions—